Survivalist Les Stroud Breaks Down Survival Scenes from Movies

– There is a tiger. This is her home territory
where we’re putting you. She has some cubs. She’s killed 22 people this year. But it’s okay, she’s
only eaten 12 of them. Okay, well then that’s great. My odds are good. Hey, I’m Les Stroud, also
known as Survivor Manand this is “The Breakdown. ” This is “Into the Wild. ” This kinda frantic, sort of
crawling around behavior,that is accurate. At home, we might want
to run to a bathroomor run outside, but in his state,malnutrition, starvation, dehydration,even that right there. You’d think you could drink waterto make it feel better,but when you have poison in your stomach,even water in your mouth is
going to feel like poison. It’s going to feel painful,and so him actually not
swallowing the water was spot on. The thing about trying to identify wild,edible plants through books. You could have nine books in front of youwith photographs and line
drawings and descriptions. You will just never, ever be 100% certain. There’s only one way to learn wild plants. And that’s to have a
teacher there showing you. When somebody says to you, yes pick it. Oh, go ahead and eat it. Oh you’re too shy?Okay, here I’ll show you. See?As soon as you see somebody
else put it in their mouth,you go, okay, I guess it’s all right. When you start to learn what
an edible wild plant is,you start to pay attention
to all of the nuancesof plant morphology. The leaves, are they
spiked, are they smooth?Are they basal, are they around the stem?There’s all these different descriptionsand that’s what he’s doing right here. Oh, lateral veins, and then you hold it upand you look, are they
lateral, are they vertical?It’s tricky to do that. To this day, I will probably
not taste test a plantuntil I’ve been able to
find somebody that knows. I’m doing mushroom season. And I go out with friends. I go out with guys who
really know their mushroomsto know that I’m getting the right one. In the case of wild edible plants,most poisonous plants
will just make you sick. Maybe make you vomit. But we’re dealing with an
individual who’s already starving. If he’d had a larder full of food,then even eating the wrong
plant would’ve made him sickfor a day or two, that’s it. And he would have recovered. This is gonna come back as a refrain. The use of the grizzly bear. When you start to get
into states of starvation,things become very surreal,which is why when this bear showed up,I wasn’t sure if this was
supposed to be a dream. The concept of a bear like
that just walking by is,no that’s not gonna happen. The likely case scenario is the bear’snot going to come close. It’s going to, more than anything,stay away from him and his bus. I think Sean Penn handled the confusionof the wild edible plants and the booksand the identifying very
well because it is confusing. And the bottom line,
the moral of the story. Don’t do it. Don’t eat it if you don’t know 100%. Bigger scale, my opinion of Chris,I think he was probably
a very wonderful man. A lotta people liked him. He’s been deified almost at this point,but he was a terrible survivalist. He didn’t know anything. Oh, no, but he had all those experiences. Well, if you really pay attentionand check out his story,the truth is, he always got out of thingsby somebody else pulling him out. Somebody always kinda helped himout of bad situations. When he got up to Alaska,there was nobody there to save him. He was probably a very
charming, very well-spoken man. Alaska doesn’t give a
crap if you’re charming. I don’t believe Chris had to die. I think with a few bits of knowledge,he could’ve gotten by there. He could’ve done things much differently. I know in the story, he has
a moose and it spoils on him. There were so many ways he could’ve hadthat moose last him the
entire time he was there. But he did, he just simply
didn’t know how to do it. This is “The Edge. “This is one of those films. I purposely didn’t watch it
based on the poster alone. Imagine you are a lawyer or
your partner is a doctor,and they make a T. V. show out of it. You know, you sit there, going, no!That’s what I do when it
comes to survival films. If it’s really that cold,I know he’s got a little bit
of the hand to the mouth thing. The thing that you wantto protect the most is actually your head. 80% of your heat is
lost through your head. I mean, I’m bald. And so for me, a cap in the
wintertime is just vital. Otherwise, I really lose heat. Okay, right there. Do you see any footprints of
him walking up to that spot?’Cause I don’t see any. This is when Hollywood
just doesn’t get it. All of that snow around him,that should be all mucked up. It’s like he was placed thereby the camera crane or something. Here, we’re gonna put you down there,and then we’re gonna film the scene. A grizzly bear of that
size can sneak up on youthat quickly and that silently. I don’t know which bear
this is in Hollywood terms. It’s probably Bart. Bart the Bear is a famous
bear used in so many films. Nicely groomed bear, by the way. What we’re about to see is a bear attack. And a very silly one. When that grizzly is
going to come after you,they run full steam, super
fast, much faster than you can. And a lot of times, their back two legs,they’ll go in unison, ’cause
they’re really pushing at it. And so what we have
here, is an acting bear,lollygagging along behind him,frolicking in the snow. Here’s a tip here. The real thing to do in the caseof a grizzly bear attack is to play dead. The way I look at predators. We have what I think
are accidental predatorsand apex predators. An apex predator are those creatureson this planet that truly
would like to eat us. Great white shark would
truly like to eat us,not because we’re prey
or they want to find usor anything like that,but because they’re kind
of haphazard eaters. They’ll taste test stuff. But the way you react
to a predator is goingto be different each time. With a grizzly, you don’t stand a chance. Can’t outrun it. One thing you can do to a
grizzly bear is bore them. They may taste test you
while they’re getting bored,which means you might have to put upwith a chomped hand or something,but you keep all the extremities inand you curl up into a
ball and you get boring,and you play dead. That said, would you or I run?Damn straight we’d run. I’d probably run, too. I can sit here and say,
I should play dead. But I’d be like, maybe there’s a chance. A bear like that is not goingto run though those
trees snapping them over. What’s going to happen
is they’re all greenand growing and young. They’re all going to bend
and be pushed to the side. These things are snapping
like dried toothpicksthat have been standing
there for 20 years dead. You know what, I guess I could
throw a little kudos hereto one thing. If you are going to protect yourselffrom an animal that big,
getting in a grove of treesor a jumble of big branches like that,that actually is a smart thing to do. Just a little behind the scenes magic,Bart the Bear and the other acting bears,they never growl. When a grizzly bear
growls, he truly is angry. These guys are trained actors. They’ve taught the bear to
just hang their mouth open. Or even open their mouth, with
all the saliva and the fangs. In reality, there’s zero sound
coming out of their mouth. They have to dub all that in later. – He’s a man-killer. – Oh that’s a pet peeve. He’s a man killer. Oh my gosh. We’ve been fed that for a lotta years. Even back in the days of
the movie “Born Free. “You know, is that tiger a man-eateror is it just enacting its own survival?- Been following us the whole time. He’s stalking us. – The torches. If you can have a safe and massive fire. I’m talking like six feet flames, do it. When they start throwing these torches,those torches are treated
by the special effects unitso that they will not blow outas they throw them in the air. I’ve thrown lots of
burning logs in the air. Sometimes they stay going. Most of the times they snuff
out while they’re flying. Classic Hollywood. The grizzly bear growling
off in the distance. That will happen with cats. Not so much bears. Two guys, the fire, all of that. The bear’s just gonna take off running. They’re not gonna hover
around the outside growling. But we always see them in
Hollywood films growling,like yeah, oh I’ll get you. This is “127 Hours. ” That’s really true to course. When you’re that dehydrated,
even a sprinkle of rain. You’re out there running around
trying to catch the drops. This is a really nice
depiction of flash flooding. I’ve seen rivers go up 20 feetin a matter of a couple of hours. I mean, my canoes were about
to get washed downstream. You can imagine how fast that is. And that’s the danger of flash floods. They don’t have to happen where you are. They just have to happen
uphill from where you are. The thing about this is Aron Ralston,who the film was made about,is an incredibly experienced adventurer. Even though this is a dream sequence,the depiction of the reality on his faceof what’s going on,
water-wise, is very real. People who do a lot of
this kind of adventuringcan recognize the signs and
he knows he’s in a crevicethat has a thousand
crevices leading to it. And every single one of those crevicesis about to become a stream. That’s the crazy part about a flash flood. You have to see it to believe it. Because it’s not like,
oh, well we got time. Let’s walk outta the way. Let’s go up higher. Man, walls of water
coming down the crevice. 15 to 20 feet high. You try to get outta the way of that. And of course, he’s trapped. A little nuance that I like. They didn’t have him calling for help. So often, the scene in the
film is already hopeless. It gets worse, and then
they start calling for help. It’s like, you haven’t
had help for 12 hours. All of a sudden, you think
someone’s gonna come nowbecause you’re yelling?And then this is a cool part. This is when rocks and big
trees and logs get moved around. It’s possible that this
water could’ve giventhat kinda buoyancy and that
force and pushed on the rockto move it so that, in his
dream, he pulls his hand out. I have to be careful, but
I don’t have to be careful. Some of these films are
made on real stories. So that one clearly is. That’s Aron Ralson’s
story, the “127 Hours. “The one thing during that
movie I wanted to talkwith him about was drinking his own peefor dehydration. And the reality is, no that’s a no-go. Like, no, you do not do that
in a survival situation. I think in truth what he really
felt was a sense of comfort. It wasn’t necessarily hydrating himself,even though it’s 92% water,but there’s all the toxins and so on. But here’s the missing link. Most of the time when
you’re that dehydrated,you don’t pee. This is “The Office,”in an episode actually
called “Survivor Man. “Producers contacted me and said,Michael Scott’s gonna go
out and try to be you. I couldn’t have been more honored. This is a highlight of my career. I’ve got the DVD at home. It’s sitting on my shelf, you can bet. It’s funny how right
Steve Carell got things. – Now this way, I can’t retrace my steps. I don’t know what streets we’ve been, ow!- Yeah, I did that. I blindfolded myselfand I had them paddle me into the swamp. His mimicking of me is so
embarrassingly spot on. I was like, God, am I that cheesy?Am I that bad?- Please allow meto have one cathartic
experience in my life. – There’s a lotta weekend warriorsthat want to have exactly
what Michael just said. They wanna have a cathartic
experience playing survivor man. – I will remain close by to
provide unseen moral support. But I will never help him. – That happened to me. I’ve had my crew go, are you sure, Les?Can we just like, check in on you?I’ve had to argue with my crew. If you go to do something like this,a lotta times, the people around you,they won’t let you. In the Arctic, one of
my very first episodes,I had a hunter that watched me from afarthrough his gun sights. It was in the Amazon jungle,I had a native elder, he kept showing up. I’m in the middle of the jungle,and I’m like, oh catching some shrimpand I’m filming, I’m doing this. I’m doing what Michael Scott’s doingand I’m talking to the camera. And I look over, and he’s standing there. And he’s just wanting to
make sure that I’m okay. – Now everything I brought
with me can be used. – The stupid part about
this is it’s gonna be hardfor me to critique thisbecause he’s copying a
“Survivor Man” episodeand he’s kinda getting it right. So many episodes of mine,
I can’t watch any morebecause I’m doing something
really stupid like that. In the Cook Islands, I cut
off the bottom of my shirtto make a bandana, it was
just super cool and stupid. – This can be used for all sorts. – Okay, in a real survival situation,what you would do is you’d tryto not damage anything that you have. Unless you can repurpose
it for something better. Then you don’t wanna be squeamish
about damaging something. – Totally alone right now
with only my thoughts. I love it. I’m loving it. – When you’re alone out there,you do some really silly stuff. It’s cathartic. If you’re distraught, you might break downand bawl your eyes out. If you’re angry, remember
that argument you hadthree days ago in the
airport on the way here?I can’t believe that she said that! You get it all out when you’re out there. You know, he made a mistake
cutting his pant legs offand then he had to fix the mistake. When you’re super hot at 2:00 PM,you think everything’s gonna be fineand then at 5:30, you’re like and now you’re wishing you
hadn’t soaked your shirtin the lake or something. Or in his case, cut his pant legs off. I’ll tell you what bugs me. Halfway through a “Survivor Man” episode,my crew will leave me
alone for my seven days. And I know that on the day three,when I’m really hungry,they’re having a beer and a filet mignon. – I have made this spear. – Ridiculously embarrassing,I made a spear that wasn’t much straighterthan that in the Cook Islands one time. And I knew it wasn’t gonna work. But I had to do something, I had to try. You know what you eat
when you’re out there?Very little. Little grubby things. That’s why, you know, I
highlight catching a scorpionor crickets or something like that. That’s what you really get. Nobody runs and impales a rabbit. You don’t accidentally come upon a zebrathat you can just eat ’cause
it’s laying there in Africawith nobody touching it. In survival, you grovel. – I have been without food
for a good three hours or so. – Now that’s hilarious. If my kids say to me, after two hours,after lunch, oh, Dad, I’m starving. It’s like, you realize,
you’ve got the wrong fatherto say I’m starving to. People think that three
hours, six hours without foodand they’re going to perish. Three days and you’re
still pretty lucid and okaywithout water. With food, you’ll get
lethargic, but you got 10 daysof still being able to
do things without eating. – It’s Creed’s birthday today. ♪ Happy birthday to you ♪- There’s a lot of moments just like that. Not singing “Happy Birthday. “Just sitting there. Okay, you have to get your mind together. You have to think about
what you’re gonna do next. It’s actually a good thing. The truth about survival,
and a survival situation,and filming it, is that real
survival’s really boring. You hardly do anything. If you think about, I’m
out there for seven days. You’ve got a 43 minute
episode that you watch. That’s 43 minutes across seven days. A lot of that time, nothing’s happening. That’s the truth and the realityof a real survival situation. It’s not wham, bam, thank you ma’am. Full of packed action. You’re just kinda sitting there,singing “Happy Birthday. “This is “Life of Pi. “I read the book, but I read
the book after I saw the movie. You know, I don’t know what it is,the difference between filmmakerswhen they try to depict certain scenesthat actually happen in life. Some just do a silly job of it. Others nail it, and they
make you feel every moment. And this is one of those filmswhere you can feel that
door opening underwaterand the pressure difference, everything. So far, so good.
When frantic scenes like this happen,it’s a very difficult thing to get right. You can take the camera
and jostle it aroundlike you’re the character. Or you can slam it into walls and things,but too often Hollywood shows the misstepsand the slips as ridiculously dramatic,which is fine if you’re
watching “The Avengers. “But if you’re watching
something like this,you know, you want it to be pretty spot-onto how someone would slip on the deck. How someone would catch themselves. What I love about this
scene is how quicklythe boat slips away from the main boat. When the storm is that crazy,
you can be out of reachof your safety within a split second. I’ll bet you in the brain it
all happens in slow motion. But in real life, it happens this fast. With waves like that, you’re
going to be tossed about. You’re nothing more than a cork, really. I think they depicted
him being at the mercyof being tossed from a shipas perfect as I can imagine it, anyway. Your voice can only carry so far. I’ve been on the other side of a riverwith some basic rapids,
not even rushing rapids. And you yell, and the personon the other side can’t hear you. Your voice does not cut through stormsand rain and wind and
forest very well at all. Whistles do. That’s why whistles matter in survival. They cut through the sound. They travel long distance,a lot better than you yelling help. It’s one of the reasons why I
taught myself how to whistle. If I were to whistle right now,I’d blow the microphones out. Now that little moment
right there is very true. I’ve been in the ocean with crazy waves,trying to get on board small vessels. It is often a wave that
will get you on board. When you know them, you can kinda time it. You know, the boat’s going up eight feetand down eight feet, you
have to time getting on boardthat boat with the waves,
so the tiger did it right. There’s a few things going on here. Number one, him jumping ship. It’s a fictional story, so, I
can’t even speak to that one. Seeing the immensity
of the wave above him,that’s a pretty real thing to see. Going down below like
this, the instant quiet. That’s one of the things
I love about diving. It could be crazy, but once
you go underneath the surface,it just goes quiet. They did throw in sharks
swimming by for dramatic effect,and that’s all that
is, is dramatic effect. Yeah nicely and beautifully done. I don’t know if he’s a free diver,but you can get down
that low, you can hover,and I’ve done it watching humpback whales. This particular scene, they did
beautifully in “Life of Pi. “This is “Open Water. “I’ve done a lotta shark dives. I highly advise learning how to diveand diving with sharks. It’s one of the most amazing
things you’ll ever doin your life. Their set up here, people
have been forgotten. With different companies,
the companies I don’t know,especially local companies
in small countries. I worry. They got out with 25 people, 26 people. And they don’t do a headcount. You’re don’t, you’re not paying
attention to anybody else. You’re looking at your own gear. And you’re, you know, with your wifeor your husband or your partner. – What is it?- I won’t comment on the acting,but as far as the scene goes,
this is how sharks operate. Curious at first, so they’ll bump you. They might bump you another six times. A tiger shark might try to taste
test the tank on your back. More testing of what these
two things up there areby the sharks before an all-out attack. It has happened. A shark has come outta nowhere
and attacked a diver before. That has happened. So rare compared to the amount of hoursthat humans are in the
water doing all of this,these activities. Beautiful shark. – Are you okay?
– I don’t know. – It actually does portray
how he would probably reactto that because you get
angry when you get hurt. Or at least I do. In fact, friends of mine
know that if I get hurtand I go silent, I’m really hurt. But if I’m swearing up a
storm, no, he’ll be fine. You know. Now right there, that
big chunk out of his leg. Would a shark do that on the second bump?Highly unlikely. Except for the great white. Most of the sharks are
accidental predators. They may attack because of
other, things are going on. You know, I mean, spear
fishermen get attacked a lotbecause they’ve got
dead fish all over them. – My leg is still there, right?I can feel it. – Bad scripting. My leg is still there, right?The shark going after
that little beacon there. It’s been proven that sharks
are actually attractedto the color yellow, think aboutthat when you buy your next wetsuit. And so the shark bumping that,I don’t necessarily
think the director meantthat to be biologically correct,but it accidentally was, let’s say. She’s about to put a tourniquet on. What a controversial subject. The pendulum has always swung,the use of a tourniquet
in a survival situation. For a while it was use a tourniquet,then it was never use a tourniquet. Then it was use a tourniquet. Then it was never use a tourniquet. We’re back to pretty
much using a tourniquetif you’ve been given
the proper instruction. So the idea with using a
tourniquet is you learn howto do it properly just
as you would get your CPRor your first aid training. So putting a tourniquet on
him was a smart thing to do. Now I would’ve gone top of my thigh. Just higher, just in the crux there. Nonetheless, it’s still
the right thing to do. One of the most painful
things you can ever feelin your life is a tourniquet. It hurts more than the shark bite. The first time I ever
panicked under the water,my dive instructor took my headand held it like that and
then she went like this And she just calmed me down. And that’s what’s going on in this scene. She’s kinda doing the right thing. In a survival situation,
with that much panic,would there be more sharks,
you bet there would be. They can smell, I can’t
remember the statistics,it’s one of those crazy
statistics like a drop of bloodin a million gallons of
water or something like that. There are going to be
different things you can do. Sharks are like cats. They do not want to
attack you from the front. So, I mean, in India I wore
a mask on the back of my headso that a tiger wouldn’t
pounce on me from behind. In the water, when I see sharks,you wanna make eye contact with a shark. Sharks don’t want to attack your face. If I were her, I would’ve gone underand just kept looking. Just make sure the shark
knows you know it’s there. The answer to where you
should go to save yourselflies entirely in what preparation
did you do before this?What do you know?Do you know that you are two miles westfrom a whole archipelago?Do you know that you’re
a quarter mile eastof a very large island?Do you know that?Do you know the currents?Get all the information about what you’re,the hike you’re about to do in Peru,the dive you’re about to go on. All of that information
should be in your head,not just the guide’s head. Because what happens
when you lose the guide?You want to know where did
you leave from the boat?How far out are you?Can you make an attempt to swim to safety,’cause I certainly would want to. And if the guide doesn’t
wanna give you information,you need to stop that trip right there. This is “Alive. “- If we do this, we’ll
never be the same again. – It’s like Communion. From their death, we live. – People will understand. – I know this story very, very well. And I can assure you that the decisionto engage in cannibalism is
not one you come by easily. If I have you three days
or four days with no foodand I show you that we can eat
scorpions and creepy-crawliesand I eat one in front of you,you’re not gonna hesitate. Gimme some of those, and you’re gonna eat. Cannibalism, total different thing. – This should be good for the cutting. – Classic show of leadership here. That blank stare from everybody. These people thought they were
going to be dammed to hell. Some of these people struggled
well after their ordeal. I believe the Pope even absolved themand assured them that they
were still going to heaven. I mean, wow, the psychological kickbackfrom all this has been intense. So I hate to be technical
about it, but gluteus maximus. If you’re going to engage in cannibalism,that’s where all the meat is. Boy, I don’t mean any disrespect. The reality is that the
glutes are the most exposed,easiest thing to get. Anything else requires
precision like surgery,you’re going in and maybe getting organsand things like that. I mean, and think about
how horrifying to say,you know what, we should
eat the liver first. What you do in a situation
of cannibalism is you tryto dehumanize the body
laying in front of you. An animal that you catch
can be at one moment a cuteand cuddly rabbit and then when it’s dead,it’s a piece of meat you
need to skin and roast. That’s what they
psychologically have to do. They have to look at the
biggest muscle on the body,the place that is the farthest awayfrom the humanism, the face. This is extreme survival,
there’s no question about it. I get asked, where’s the
toughest place to survive?What I’ll say is wherever it’s cold. If it’s cold, it’s hard. You can’t stop. If I’m in a really rugged areaand there’s jaguar around
and poisonous things,but it’s 75 degrees, I’m okay. I got forgiveness time. I can sleep by a tree, maybe. When it’s cold, you can succumb
so quickly to hypothermia. When you don’t have food in your system,what’s there to keep
your body engine warm?When it comes to cannibalismin any survival situation,
you and I cannot judgea group of people on
the verge of potentiallynever being rescued and potentially dyingor having to make a decision like this. So you can’t judge unless you’re there. “Jeremiah Johnson. “My favorite movie of all time. The consultant on this film was none otherthan Larry Dean Olson, one of
the godfathers of survival. What follows are proper
depictions of survival. And first little slice
of realism is that thisis the time of year when the
fish run in creeks like that. I’ve been in creeks
with all the snow aroundand sockers are just running like crazy. Bouncing off your legs. Now you might be asking,why would he get himself
all wet like that?Well, he’s a desperate mountain
man looking for sustenance. He’s going after fish. Well, actually no, this
was an accidental find. He was trying to trap, but he sucks at it. This is the very beginning of the film. And this is the thing, we
think we can just go up thereand just be Jeremiah Johnson. And you have to train, you
have to learn these skills. If you’re going to try
and catch fish in a creek,even when there’s hundreds
of them, it can be tricky. I thought maybe they’re just
busy about their businessuntil I started doing it several times. Oh, no, they know you’re there. They swim away from you quickly. Why?Because you represent to
them, likely, a grizzly bear. Anything big that’s coming
down along the water,they don’t wanna be around it. So they try to take off. So it’s very difficult. Now what we’re seeing here is
gonna set up the entire moviewhich is his friendship withand then war with tribes
that were in the area. That’s a good look of disgust right there. Now later on in the film, actually,when he bumps into that
native leader again,through translation he
says, you fish poorly. And he did. We’re not looking at a
seasoned mountain man yet. He’s a wannabe. This scene here, I love this fire scenebecause again, I know that
Larry Dean Olson was consulting. Showing him, this is
how it actually works. Rock and steel and charred cloth. You take 100% cotton and you char it,and then if you put a spark
on it, it catches the spark,holds the ember, you put that in tinder,you blow it to flame. That was their pack of matches. That’s not like rubbing
two sticks together,which is even more primitive. Doing it with the fire
bow goes back in time. Doing it with your hands goes
even farther back in timeand different geographical locations. The thing about getting
a fire going is this,you’ve got to humble yourself
and really take your time. I still don’t understand
today in regular campinghow people can’t get a fire
going with matches and dry wood. I just, it baffles me. In the end, it’s a skill set. And one worth practicing. And he’s about to blow it. What’s he done wrong?He’s got no protection around him. He’s not out of the wind. Doesn’t have a big supply
of wood beside him. You have to treat your
fire like it’s your baby. You can do that, you will
get a great, warm fire going. The thing that “Jeremiah
Johnson” portrays beautifullyis that the romanticism
and the power of being outin the mountains or on horsebackor in the wilderness alone
is still very, very powerful. It’s a soul experience. I guarantee you, every man
that has seen this movieis playing Jeremiah Johnson in his headwhen he watches, I can do that. Yeah. The thing about Jeremiah
Johnson and his abilityto live and survive in the wilderness is,he’s just not instantly good at it. It takes a long time. It comes down, in the end,
he’s on the mountainsideand he’s comfortable, and
he’s roasting a rabbit. The character he meets
in the beginning looksat him and just says,
you’ve come far, pilgrim. My favorite line of all time. He just, without even, barely look at him,he just says, feels like far. That encapsulates the journey
of wilderness survival. It takes a long time and when
you get to the end of it,it doesn’t feel like it went by fast. It does feel like it’s
been a long journey. You know sometimes, like
boy that went right by. Not survival, not wilderness. You get to the end of
it, you feel weathered,you feel tough, and you
feel like you’ve beenon a long journey. That was my break down,
thanks for watching.